 | Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
Number of Replies: 11
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 | Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Their outfield defense would suffer a bit and I think pitching whens championships but he would add some offense that is for sure. The Cubs are almost a lock to make the postseason again but they need to get past the hump and actually win a postseason series and at least make the World Series, to me anything short of them playing in the World Series would be no progress not a step forward.
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Pitching wins championships not whens, jeez I type too fast sometimes!
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| I think outfield defense is a little bit overrated at times. I mean, Soriano was one of the worst defensive outfielders last year, committing I think 7 errors. Dunn had about the same amount of errors, and surprisingly, Dunn's outfield range factor was greater than Soriano's. So the defense I could care less about, especially since with Dunn we should be ahead more often than not. I'd gladly take 40+ home runs and 100+ rbis and give up about 10-20 more runs a year to have Dunn. I just don't get it. The biggest thing that the Cubs were complaining about all last year and this offseason is that they don't have the middle order big left-handed batter with some pop. Well, Dunn fills the void perfectly, and while he is slow, his OBP is better than almost anybody's on the Cubs. This is all not even mentioning the fact that the Cubs probably have 2 of the best defensive outfielders in the game with Fukudome and Johnson, not to mention the recent acquisition of the speedy Gathwright.
Here is another interesting tidbit: Last year, Dunn averaged 1 homerun every 2.6 games at Wrigley field. 81/2.6=about 31. There is 31 long balls right there. What would he do with the other 81 games?
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| Scratch that, the 1:2.6 average is for his career.
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I definately think he will add some offense no doubt, but the Cubs have to perform in the postseason not just win 96-100 regular season games and get swept by say the Dodgers again, does Dunn have any postseason experience at all? If not even if he hits 60 home runs during the regular season if he hits .100 in the postseason with 1 home run and they get swept again what have they really gained since the last two seasons? I'm telling you it's pitching that wins post season games, you can have the 1927 Yankees team go up against Big Z or Roy Oswalt when they are on top of their game and guess what the pitcher that throws a 3 hit complete game shutout has a damn good chance of winning that game at least.
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 | Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Matthew Ratz
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| I'm confused as to what the difference between the baseball played during the regular season and the post season is.
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Difference is you lose 3 games in a row in a 5 game series and you go home, just ask the Cubs. I think some Cub hitters just need to relax during the postseason, I think they are putting too much pressure on themselves. Either that or 2 really good pitching performances puts a team in a 2-0 hole in a 5 game series and no room for error.
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| Eh, you can't really compare the 1927 Yankees to any pitcher in today's era. There are several different factors in the pitching aspect of the game. For instance, the mound was higher, making the angle of the pitch different, resulting in difficulties connecting with the ball. However, you are right, pitching is what matters, but as the Cubs proved, when a pitcher makes mistakes, it's very costly. The Cubs have the pitching, they just didn't perform. And, as a kicker, you HAVE to have good hitters at bat in order to capitalize on those pitchers mistakes. I truly believe that offense is equally as important as pitching in today's baseball.
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Good pitching wins championships, the Yankees of old had both pitching and hitting and they put both to good use during the postseason. And if hitting was so much more difficult before 1968 then why has no player hit .400 since Ted Williams in 1953?
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Ben Warren
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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| I don't know. I guess I am a little biased because I grew up in a time where 60 home runs a year was the norm. It was always Sammy Sosa this, Mark McGwire that, Barry Bonds sucks. I guess I naturally assumed that hitters were the best of the game.
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| Date Posted: 12/22/2008
Posted By: Martin Stanley
Member Since: 2/29/2008
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| Yes I guess I grew up watching the 1982 Cardinals who had speed and defense and decent pitching to win games. I think their biggest home run threat that year was George Hendrick who hit 22 homers that year. There was a time however from 1963-1968 where the pitching mound was 15 inches high and guys like Koufax, Drysdale, Juan Marichel and especially Bob Gibson in 1968 and his ERA of 1.12 which led to the mound being lowered to 10 inches in 1969. The AL batting champion in 1968 was Yaz with a average of .301!
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